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	<title>Comments on: Tension in Debian changelogs</title>
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	<description>A place to store words until I need them.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TBBle</title>
		<link>http://blog.tbble.org/archives/2008/05/05/tension-in-debian-changelogs/comment-page-1/#comment-39828</link>
		<dc:creator>TBBle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, the changelogs need to stand alone and useful in the absence of the source or knowledge thereof.

The changelogs probably &lt;b&gt;don't&lt;/b&gt; need to be useful to someone to whom the package is not useful though.

I don't mind the occasional "{obscure reference} release" comment at the top of a changelog, though. Of course, I have &lt;a href='http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/php4/php4_4.4.4-8+etch4/changelog#versionversion3:4.0.6-6' rel="nofollow"&gt;a good reason&lt;/a&gt; to think those are fine. I don't actually use them myself generally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the changelogs need to stand alone and useful in the absence of the source or knowledge thereof.</p>
<p>The changelogs probably <b>don&#8217;t</b> need to be useful to someone to whom the package is not useful though.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind the occasional &#8220;{obscure reference} release&#8221; comment at the top of a changelog, though. Of course, I have <a href='http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/php4/php4_4.4.4-8+etch4/changelog#versionversion3:4.0.6-6' rel="nofollow">a good reason</a> to think those are fine. I don&#8217;t actually use them myself generally.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Coker</title>
		<link>http://blog.tbble.org/archives/2008/05/05/tension-in-debian-changelogs/comment-page-1/#comment-39750</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 08:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I don't mind what tense it's in - just as long as it's clear and makes sense.

One thing I really hate is when DDs write changelogs with obscure jokes or which reference other changelogs.

Each entry should stand along and be understood by a reasonable person who's skill level is lower than that of the average DD.  Obviously there are people who can just run diff on the code to determine the difference, the changelog is not for their benefit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I don&#8217;t mind what tense it&#8217;s in - just as long as it&#8217;s clear and makes sense.</p>
<p>One thing I really hate is when DDs write changelogs with obscure jokes or which reference other changelogs.</p>
<p>Each entry should stand along and be understood by a reasonable person who&#8217;s skill level is lower than that of the average DD.  Obviously there are people who can just run diff on the code to determine the difference, the changelog is not for their benefit!</p>
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